[TML] NY Reload

Tom B kaladorn at gmail.com
Tue Mar 4 17:44:11 MST 2008


Never argue with Todd. :0)

US SF training when executing a dynamic entry is that if your primary
(usually an M4) goes dry, you draw secondary (auto pistol) and engage. This
is done because the draw time is faster than the reload time and less likely
to lead to mistakes. If you expend both the ready rounds in your primary and
secondary, then you reload. But as my friend from 5th SF put it - "If all
the bad guys in the room aren't dead by then, you're doing something wrong".
They practice transition drills to make this a very fast process - let the
M4 fall to its hanging position on the assault sling while the primary hand
whips the pistol out and up, joined by the secondary hand to give you a good
firing posture.

They also do not use front sight aiming a lot of the time. As my friend put
it "Many times in dynamic entry situations, you don't have the time to
obtain the sight picture even using just the front sight. You have to rely
on the natural pointing characteristics of the weapon. Speed is critical.

When I asked him if he was a good shot, he said "I'm a fair shot, but I'm a
lethal CQBer."

I suspect the reload vs. secondary draw depends a lot on the location of
your secondary. If your secondary is in an easily accessible shoulder
holster or a fast-draw hip holster, then it is very quick to get out. If you
have to fish into your waistband (front or rear), draw with the off hand,
root into your ankle holster, or pull from a flap-down military holster,
you're further ahead reloading. Carrying the secondary does give you
security against a stoppage or malfunction.

Another advantage of reload is you can keep the pistol nearly on-line with
your target or an area you are covering... click the mag release with a
thumb, mag drops, off hand brings up and inserts the mag (maybe you have
guides on the pistol to make this a more sure thing without looking), seats
the mag, and you flip the slide release to chamber a round - meanwhile your
weapon stays pointed (roughly) at your target area or what you are trying to
cover.

Of course, that isn't a consideration if you are going for cover yourself
while reloading. But I know from my own paintball experience (not the same
in many way... but perhaps in this one small way) that if you can reload
while keeping your weapon online, your time to return to engagement is much
faster than if you have to reload then reacquire the targeting solution.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Tod Glenn <webmaster at travellercentral.com>
wrote:

> >> Don't know about your guns but mine has a button that shoots the old
> >> clip out, so step one is not much of a step. And draw new weapon?
> >> What
> >> about the old one? Just dropping it? That could get expensive. Re
> >> holster it, more time or shoot left handed??
> >
> > Actually, thinking ergonomically, it's more like:
> >
> > Action 1 right: push button to drop mag
> > Action 1 left: reach to where new magazine is
> > Action 2: bring new mag up and insert
> >
> > Vs.
> >
> > Action 1: reach for new gun while dropping old
> > Action 2: bring new gun up
>
>
> Actually, with a modern auto and skill it's;
>
> 1.  Gun hand hits mag release while off hand draws spare mag
> 2.  Insert fresh mag
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