[TML] Firefly, wait no it is a Subsidized Merchant ship.

[Garry Ward]

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From: "Tom B" <kaladorn at gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [TML] Firefly, wait no it is a Subsidized Merchant ship.


> Well, to comfortably bear 700 metric tons on concrete would take 118
> square feet or so of landing pad area on bedrock. Divided by 3, that's
> roughly 40 square feet per landing pad. That's 6 x 7 feet or
> thereabouts (2m x 2.5m would do it). So it is doable on bedrock for a
> scout. In Sandy soil, 2.5 metric tons per square foot should be
> feasible. So you're looking at 280 square feet of landing pad area.
> Divided by 3, that's about 93 square feet per pad, or 10 ft x 9 ft
> pads (3m x 3m). Landing in clay, multiply that by 2 (6m x 6m).
>
> But I assume for weight vs. volume a scout is pretty median and light
> compared to any military ship.
>
> And the scout is not armoured. I imagine many armoured cruisers or
> other ships would NOT float.

According to the info in BL, a loaded Gazelle Close Essort averages 1,000 
Kg/M^3  while the loaded Subsidized Merchant comes out to 697 Kg/m^3.

A fully loaded scout comes in at 494 Kg/m^3.

A Midu Agashaam Destroyer with a volume of 4,200 m^3and a loaded mass of 
28,839.61 tonnes comes in at 686.66 Kg/m^3, less than the Subsidized 
merchant.

Garry
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Antony Farrell <skaran at bordernet.com.au> 
> wrote:
>> TNE lists the actual loaded mass of a TL15 Scout as 697.9 metric tons 
>> with a
>>  volume of 1,400 cubic meters so this vessel will float in water. Earlier 
>> TL
>>  version way more due to less efficient hull materials being used. A TL11
>>  scout I did massed at at over 1,000 metric tons. Of course since TNE
>>  construction is not the same as earlier versions it gives only a rough
>>  guide. But at least it uses both mass and volume and surface area.
>>
>>  Antony
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