[TML] Firefly, wait no it is a Subsidized Merchant ship.

[Garry Ward]

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From: "Garry Ward" <garry.e.ward at worldnet.att.net>
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Subject: Re: [TML] Firefly, wait no it is a Subsidized Merchant ship.


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> From: "Tom B" <kaladorn at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [TML] Firefly, wait no it is a Subsidized Merchant ship.
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>> Well, to comfortably bear 700 metric tons on concrete would take 118
>> square feet or so of landing pad area on bedrock. Divided by 3, that's
>> roughly 40 square feet per landing pad. That's 6 x 7 feet or
>> thereabouts (2m x 2.5m would do it). So it is doable on bedrock for a
>> scout. In Sandy soil, 2.5 metric tons per square foot should be
>> feasible. So you're looking at 280 square feet of landing pad area.
>> Divided by 3, that's about 93 square feet per pad, or 10 ft x 9 ft
>> pads (3m x 3m). Landing in clay, multiply that by 2 (6m x 6m).
>>
>> But I assume for weight vs. volume a scout is pretty median and light
>> compared to any military ship.
>>
>> And the scout is not armoured. I imagine many armoured cruisers or
>> other ships would NOT float.
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> According to the info in BL, a loaded Gazelle Close Essort averages 1,000
> Kg/M^3  while the loaded Subsidized Merchant comes out to 697 Kg/m^3.
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> A fully loaded scout comes in at 494 Kg/m^3.
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> A Midu Agashaam Destroyer with a volume of 4,200 m^3and a loaded mass of
Whoops, left off a zero - that should be 42,000 m^3 - Garry
> 28,839.61 tonnes comes in at 686.66 Kg/m^3, less than the Subsidized
> merchant.
>
> Garry
>>
>> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Antony Farrell <skaran at bordernet.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>> TNE lists the actual loaded mass of a TL15 Scout as 697.9 metric tons
>>> with a
>>>  volume of 1,400 cubic meters so this vessel will float in water. 
>>> Earlier
>>> TL
>>>  version way more due to less efficient hull materials being used. A 
>>> TL11
>>>  scout I did massed at at over 1,000 metric tons. Of course since TNE
>>>  construction is not the same as earlier versions it gives only a rough
>>>  guide. But at least it uses both mass and volume and surface area.
>>>
>>>  Antony
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